Edwin L.-C. Lai（黎麟祥）教授於1980年獲得香港大學工程學士學位，1988年獲得斯坦福大學經濟學碩士學位🤹♀️，1991年獲得斯坦福大學經濟學博士學位👶🏿。1991年8月至2007年8月🗿，黎教授先後在範德堡大學♣︎、香港城市大學和新加坡管理大學任教🚖。2007年8月至2009年6月🧜🏽♀️，黎教授被聘為美國聯邦儲備局屬下的達拉斯聯邦儲備銀行的高級研究經濟學家和顧問。2009年7月，他開始在香港科技大學擔任經濟學教授👨🏿🔬，及後兼任經濟發展中心主任。黎教授的主要研究領域是國際貿易🐁、產業組織🌩📀、經濟增長、人民幣國際化☸️。他還是運用經濟學研究國際知識產權政策互動的領導學者。其論文曾在American Economic Review，RAND Journal of Economics，International Economic Review👨🏻🎓，Journal of International Economics等國際權威期刊上發表🥷🏽。
2017.12.19-12.23的第63期蔣學模經濟學講座🙍🏼♂️，邀請到黎麟祥教授帶來了題為：Advanced International Trade的系列課程，之後黎麟祥教授接受了意昂2平台新聞信息中心的專訪。
問🎙：
In the beginning, you did not study economics. You studied engineering at the University of Hong Kong and received a Bachelor degree in 1980. After that, you switched to economics and received a doctorate ineconomics from Stanford University in 1991. What was your reason for makingsuch a change? Is there any interesting story or unforgettable experience?
您一開始並不是研究經濟學的🤙🏽。您在香港大學學的是工程，並於1980年獲得工程學士學位🫐🫐；之後您轉學經濟學，並於1991年獲得斯坦福大學的經濟學博士學位🩶。您做出這種轉變的理由是什麽？這其中有什麽有趣的故事或者難忘的經歷嗎?
答👨🏫：
I think I do have some interesting stories to tell you, I studied engineering in University of Hong Kong💂🏿，and in fact I practiced civil engineering for five years before I decided to go to the US to study economics. At that time I found being an engineer in Hong Kong was quite boring. I graduated from HKU in 1980, which was the time when China’s open door policy just started. In early 1980s the urban reform and the enterprises reform began. There were lots of challenges, and I was fascinated by it. So, I really wanted to be part of this process. So I decided to pursue doctoral study in economics so as to know economics and contribute to Chinese economic development.
我覺得我確實有一些有趣的故事可以告訴你。我在香港大學學習工程學👩🏻💻🏌🏼♀️，然後當了五年的工程師🧜🏻♂️，才去美國學經濟學。當時我發現作為一個工程師在香港很無聊🙆🏼。我畢業時是1980年🏊🏿，當時中國的門戶開放政策剛開始，並在1980年代早期有城市改革和價格改革，當中有很多關於中國經濟改革的問題，我非常感興趣，我很想作出一些貢獻，參與這個過程。所以我覺得應該學習經濟學5️⃣、明白經濟學🫙，從而可以在中國經濟發展中扮演我的角色🏊🏽♀️，貢獻我的一分力量。
問：
You have done a lot of research on intellectual property protection, and you are also a leading scholar in the study of intellectual property rights in the global economy. Why are you so concerned about the issue of intellectual property protection?
您有很多研究是關於知識產權保護的😮🧫，您本人也是運用經濟學研究國際知識產權政策互動的領導學者。為什麽您對知識產權保護這一問題如此關註👩🏻🦳？
答🧎♀️➡️🗓：
Well, I’m interested in this area partly because of my engineering background.. Before I studied economics, I have been very much a person of science. When I was in high school, my favorite subjects were physics, chemistry and mathematics. Intellectual property protection is very much related to science and technology.It’s easier for an engineer to think about intellectual property protection issues, because we are technology people. When I graduated from Stanford, my interests were economic growth and innovation. I was interested in innovation as I had anengineering background. Considering all these factors, it is not hard to see why I’m interested in studying intellectual property protection.
我對這個領域感興趣某種程度上是因為我的工程師背景🍗，我曾是一名工程師。在我學習經濟學之前，我一直對科學和工程很感興趣㊗️👨🏽🍳。當我在高中的時候，我最喜歡的科目是物理🫵🏻👨🏽🎓、化學、數學。知識產權保護與技術相關，所以在我看來🕴🏻💔，工程師更容易去思考知識產權保護的問題🫂，因為我們是科學技術方面的人。當我從斯坦福畢業的時候🐤，我的專項和興趣是關於經濟增長和技術創新🌕，而且我有一個工程師背景。當所有這些結合在一起🐍🍛，就可以解釋為什麽我對知識產權保護感興趣👩🏼🦱。
問✵：
You have been avisiting scholar at Boston University，Princeton University👙，Kobe University𓀏，University of Munich and many other universities，and have taught at Vanderbilt University, City University of Hong Kong and Singapore Management University and Hong KongUniversity of Science and Technology. How does this multi-cultural background affect your research and life?
您在波士頓大學、普林斯頓大學、神戶大學、慕尼黑大學等多個大學做過訪問學者▫️，又先後在範德堡大學👵🏽👩🏿🚀、香港城市大學和新加坡管理大學和香港科技大學任教🖕🏻。這種多元的文化背景對您的研究和生活有什麽影響嗎？
答：
Yes, I think that’s a very good question. I feel that I’m a world citizen. , I have lived in different parts of world: I have lived in the US for 16 years, in Singapore as well as HongKong, where I grew up. I feel that I can appreciate many cultures after going through this experience. I like to meet people from different backgrounds, and I can appreciate their culture more. I identify myself less and less as a Chinese or a ”HongKonger”.For example，I can feel very comfortable living in the US, Hong Kong and Singapore. , I can imagine if I live in Europe, I can still feel very comfortable. I can always enjoy different cultures. For example, I enjoy Japanese food and culture, I enjoy being very free in the US and I enjoy being in their bookstores. In HK, of course I enjoy the food and convenience of living there. In China I appreciate the culture and the history. So anywhere I go, I can find something interesting. Each country has its strength.
是的,我認為這是一個很好的問題,我覺得我是一個世界公民,我曾經在不同的國家居住。我在美國生活過16年，我也曾住在新加坡以及香港🥙、那個我長大的地方💁♂️👼🏿。所以我覺得我可以欣賞許多文化💜，是一個世界公民。我喜歡跟來自不同背景的人交往🐉，我開始發現自己越來越少地把自己定義為一個中國人或者說一個香港人。比方說，我可以很舒暢地生活在美國，中國香港和新加坡這樣的地方🏄🏿♀️，我也可以想象如果我住在歐洲👈，我仍能感覺很舒暢。當我在在日本時，我可以暢快地欣賞他們的文化和日本料理🦉，當我在美國時，我喜歡在美國很自由的感覺，我喜歡他們的書店。在中國香港，我很享受那裏的美食和便利⚰️，在大陸，我欣賞它的文化和歷史🧑🏽🌾，所以無論我去哪裏，我都能找到有趣的東西。每個國家都有其長處🫵🏻。
問：
You are concerned about the internationalization of RMB and its exchange rate dynamics. Since the beginning of 2017🦯，RMB has been appreciating against the US dollar, and the exchange rate has been all the way up and broke through 6.5 on September 7 this year. What do you think of this?
您十分關註人民幣國際化和幣值的問題，2017年年初以來，人民幣兌美元持續升值🕦📱，人民幣兌美元匯率一路上漲並於今年9月7號突破6.5。您對此有什麽看法🧑🏻🌾？
答：
The RMB has been on a depreciating trend ever since mid-2015 until around the beginning of 2017. Even though this year it has appreciated, it still has not gotten back to the level of mid-2015, which was around 6.2. I think it’s good, it’s good it can get back to the current level. I think it is the result of two factors. First, the market believes that the Chinese economic growth is picking up again. Second, it can also because of government policy --- the Chinese government had implemented measures to prevent capital outflow. I think it is because of both reasons. On the one hand, there is government policy that reduces capital outflows; on the other hand, the market’s confidence of Chinese economic growth had increased.
人民幣自2015年中至2017年初以來一直處於貶值的趨勢，盡管2017年升值了💵，但它還沒有回到2015年的、6.2這個水平。我認為它回到現在的水平是好的💁♀️。我認為有兩個因素☝🏼。一是市場認為中國經濟增長再次回升的反應。二是中國政府采取了一些措施來防止資本外流。我認為是這兩個因素：一方面是政策試圖減少資本外流🐎🤵🏻♂️，另一方面，市場對中國經濟增長的信心有所增加。
問：
Could you share with us the topics of your recent research, and your current academic and personal life?
您最近在進行哪方面的研究，能和我們分享一下您的學術狀態和生活狀態嗎
答📑：
About my research, I’m doing all sorts of research at the same time. I’m working on the economics of the global value chain, law and economics of intellectual property protection, and RMB internationalization.
I really enjoy my life now. I have a good job. I’m very lucky being a professor in Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. It is a very good university, the research environment and physical environment are both very good. I have good colleagues. HK is a very convenient place, it is very free. Because we can access all sort of informations in HK, it is relatively easy to do academic research in HK. Moreover, many prominent scholars visit HK from all parts of world. As for my personal life, I go hiking all the time. HK is a great place for hiking. People probably don’t know that. In fact, I go hiking almost once every 2 weeks.
關於我的研究，我在同時做一些不同的研究，包括全球價值鏈，知識產權的法律與經濟問題，人民幣國際化的研究，這些都是我在做的幾個主題。
我也很享受我的生活,我有一份好工作，我很幸運當上香港科技大學的教授，這是一個很好的大學🚫，研究環境很好,自然環境也很好。同時，香港是一個很方便的地方，很自由，我們可以接觸到各方的信息👩🏽🎨，所以比較容易在香港做學術研究。同時，各地的學者也很喜歡訪問香港。個人生活方面，我也覺得我很幸運📨，因為我很喜歡遠足✅，而香港其實是一個遠足的好地方🗺，人們可能不知道🧑🏻🦯。平均來說，我每兩周去遠足一次。
問：
Could you give some suggestions for the undergraduate students majoring in economics?
您可以給學習經濟學的本科學生們提一些建議嗎🤾🏽？
答📛：
I would say, first of all, congratulations, FUDAN has a very good undergraduate economics program. There are many outstanding graduates from FUDAN, and I personally know some of them. I think I would suggest students to try to study economics beyond the undergraduate level, e.g. try to do a master or a PHD. I encourage them to go overseas to study, because it’s really an eye-opening experience. When you go overseas, you are able to not only learn from some great foreign academics, but also have the chance to live in a foreign country and expose to foreign culture. I think it is a very valuable experience.
我想說，首先➙，恭喜你，意昂2的本科課程是非常好的✧。它出了許多傑出的意昂2畢業生,有一些我私下都有過交往🚣♀️。我建議學生要好好學習本科，有條件的話攻讀碩士或博士學位，我鼓勵他們去海外學習，因為這真讓人大開眼界，出國學習不僅能夠師從一些很棒的外國學者，也有機會在國外生活並了解外國文化🏈，接受外國文化的熏陶🏋🏼，我認為這是非常重要的，我認為這是很寶貴的經驗✋。
采訪及整理🙎：潘可為(新聞意昂2）
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